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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 26, 2008 19:46:41 GMT -5
Please post in this thread any league changes that we can vote on during the offseason meeting that will be held in Feb.
Please be as specific as possible and please try to remain open minded and positive. Remember we will vote on any changes to TBL 2 at the meeting.
thanks,
TBL 2 Commissioner
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 27, 2008 18:48:16 GMT -5
Excellent feedback Neil! This is exactly what I am looking for
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Post by gametime on Jan 27, 2008 20:53:39 GMT -5
get rid of head coaches..... no business in fantasy along with fullbacks and punters!
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Post by Football Buddah on Jan 28, 2008 8:46:28 GMT -5
get rid of head coaches..... no business in fantasy along with fullbacks and punters! I 2nd that. Get rid of the DEF/ST position along with it too. I agree with Ron Mexico about incorporating IDP's in the near future... beginning 2010 would be great, as it gives GM's a chance to plan with draft picks and BLB's. My recommendations are as follows: 1. Eliminate the HC and DEF/ST positions (the DEF/ST positions is like using a Beta-Max!) 2. Add 4 IDP positions to starting roster (DL, LB, DB and 1 flex). This will only increase the starting lineups by 2 roster spots. 3. Figure out a salary & BLY pro-rated refund for any HC and DEF/ST positions that might still be under contract in 2010 and beyond.
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Post by gametime on Jan 28, 2008 8:52:15 GMT -5
amen buddah! Let's go IDP ......
why do people insist on putting head coaches in fantasy? an 11 point swing becuase of a coach is rediculous.......
coaches don't win/lose games.... players do.... Would Beliichick have gone 16-0 on the Dolphins?
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 28, 2008 10:45:03 GMT -5
A change of this magnitude if voted on by the GMs at the offseason meeting would need to be implemented in future seasons so GMs can plan accordingly.
If we do vote to add IDPs or make any major changes that changes the strategy of the league, it would not go into effect until 2009 at the very earliest to be fair.
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Post by gametime on Jan 28, 2008 12:43:00 GMT -5
i don't care about idp.. but head coaches are pointless.... it's not a coach.. you get a good team.... they have no point in fantasy football at all... i think it's rediculous some teams basically start -11 each week because of a coach....games are decided on the field.... fantasy should be decided by players on the field.... why not draft owners then too... they hire the coaches.... maybe we could even add stadiums.... if it's sunny you get 10 bous points.. if it rains or snows -5....
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Post by blindsidegm on Jan 28, 2008 22:09:02 GMT -5
I have been a head coach hater since we began to include them many years ago. If we ABSOLUTELY have to have them, then the point swing should be no more than 5 (5 for a W and 0 for a L). Especially in this scoring system.
Defensive points definitely need attention. Credit for sacks, please!! Although I agree that smart GM's noticed that and postured accordingly, I feel that this needs to be addressed immediately.
I also think that tight ends need a bump. I realize that teams also considered this in their planning, but they are all but insignificant in this league. We also need to get rid of the roster limit of three (quarterbacks should be addressed here also, but I realize that these are not direct scoring issues).
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Post by gametime on Jan 28, 2008 22:16:09 GMT -5
see.. almost everyone agrees with me on the coach... get rid of it!
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condors
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Post by condors on Jan 29, 2008 2:44:07 GMT -5
I think we should have a qb and his backup (if we want) and not have it go against our qb limit of three. Quarterbacks from the same team should count as 1.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 5:56:48 GMT -5
that is something I planned to talk about Chris
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 21:08:38 GMT -5
that is to try and create parody
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Post by Football Buddah on Jan 30, 2008 0:05:41 GMT -5
This is becoming a scary recurring theme... I'm in agreement with RonMexico... again.
Their "reward" for finishing last (and 2nd to last) is that they get the FIRST and SECOND picks in the rookie/fa draft the following year. Giving them more BLB's on top of that does not create parity, it's rewarding a team for losing.
No offense to Condor's or Jackrabbit's - I think you guys are in great spots for '08 (draft-wise), but it's like giving your kid $25 for getting an 'F' on his report card.
Nothing we can do about this past season, but I agree that should be up for a vote for the new season. Maybe reward the Final Four more BLB's than what they already get, since that's the true accomplishment.
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Post by Barrister on Jan 30, 2008 8:21:30 GMT -5
Whatever everyone decides to do on this stuff is fine with me. I think it’s great to get a discussion going. Here is what I prefer at this point.
1. I like the 4 divisions, with 4 teams in each format. 2. I’d go to 6 playoff teams. No disrespect here, but if I only go .500 or (ugh!) a game under that, I don’t think I’m really of playoff caliber in an elite league. If we decide to keep the Conference format, the two division winners and best 2nd place team qualify in each. If we get rid of Conferences, and just have 4 Divisions, then the 4 division winners and 2 top non-division winning teams (regardless of division) might qualify 3. I also think that we should extend the season to 13 weeks and play everyone at least once. I felt cheated last year with only 12 weeks, and not getting to play a couple of my old nemesis'; e.g., Loqutis. Plus I didn't get a chance to get to know and battle a couple other GMs I'd never met before. A more balanced schedule would advance more spirited competition and create annual rivalries in the league. No matter what, Tyler and Ethan should be assured of playing each other every year. And the thought of not getting to smack Ron Mexico and Rob around at least once a year is enough to drive me to bed out of depression. 4. If we were to expand to a 13 week regular season, and play everyone once and those in our division twice, that adds up to 18 games total. If we played doubleheaders (1 game against our division, the other against a non-division team) in weeks #1, #2, #11, #12 & #13, we can avoid the wk 3-10 NFL bye-weeks, both for our crucial intra-divisional games and doubleheader weeks. 5. I agree we should go to IDPs this year. Granting 100 blbs or whatever to everybody for an auction of solely IDPs is a terrific idea. 6. I wouldn’t totally do away with HC’s, DSTs, or Kickers for that matter. HCs do make a difference in occasional NFL games. Do you want Belicheat or Art Shell as your coach on otherwise evenly matched teams? I would reduce HC’s scoring to 5 pts for a W, and 0 for an L. Just because HC scoring wouldn’t impact often, doesn’t mean we should totally scrap them. If that’s the case, we might as well dump kickers in this league too. 7. I also don’t like the idea of giving the two bottom-finshing teams 25 pts. By the same token, though, giving the Blitz Bowl Winner only 15 is too low (especially when they’ll draft 16th). I mean -- and again, no disrespect here – but how can you give 20 blbs for the NFL picks champs, and 50 to the Survivor, NCAA Tourney, and Draft Challenge winner, and only 15 to our Champ? I mean, c’mon, this is a fantasy football league, first and foremost. At an absolute minimum I’d give 30 to the Blitzbowl winner, 15 to the runner-up and 10 to the 3rd place finisher and 5 to the 4th, and another 5 blbs to each division winner. 8. I'd also make the first tie-breaker for standings, playoffs & seeding Total Points, rather than head-to-head. I think it's a better indicator of which team has been better over the course of the season. If you've outscored your tied opponent over the course of the season, that should mean more than a loss to him because all your studs were on bye that week. It also gets rid of the dreaded three-way tie problem we had last year.
Again, just my thoughts. I’ll have no problem with what everyone eventually decides to do. No matter how we go on this stuff, it's going to be terrific fun.
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condors
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Post by condors on Jan 30, 2008 10:27:10 GMT -5
I agree that last place shouldn't get 25 blb's. And I only got 20 for winning the NFL Picks challenge? I get more for being bad than I get for being good?
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Post by Wonderlickers on Jan 30, 2008 12:39:25 GMT -5
Since the amount of BLB's given to last and next to last won't affect me, I agree that the draft position is enough of a reward. Spread out amongst the top finishers and division winners, or through the NFL picks, etc.
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Post by Football Buddah on Jan 30, 2008 19:19:35 GMT -5
I agree that last place shouldn't get 25 blb's. And I only got 20 for winning the NFL Picks challenge? I get more for being bad than I get for being good? HaHa - great point!!!
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Post by gametime on Jan 30, 2008 20:25:06 GMT -5
Just wondering, can we post p*rn on the new MFL site? Yeah.... In fact it can be set up to have hidden windows that when rolled over a Babe A Day appears......
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Post by Football Buddah on Jan 30, 2008 20:38:14 GMT -5
I'm starting to like MFL more and more now!
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Post by Fundy on Jan 30, 2008 20:45:58 GMT -5
1. I will reiterate the point that only 6 teams should make the fantasy playoffs...reasons, look at Barristers post. Quality is important if you are to make a playoff.
2. I drafted last year accordantly in order to accommodate the HC position so to scrap it would be a bit unfair considering the contract I committed to the deal. Now, I am for maybe making it +5 and -5 but I agree a 15 point swing was a ton!
3. I have no opinions on IDPs one way or the other. It cannot be this year I would think though.
That is all I guess except to ask when we declare who we are franchising and signing one more year?
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Post by gametime on Jan 30, 2008 21:16:31 GMT -5
am i the only one that has a problem when a coach comes into a strategy for fantasy football....
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Post by Football Buddah on Jan 30, 2008 21:26:55 GMT -5
am i the only one that has a problem when a coach comes into a strategy for fantasy football.... I've never liked the HC position either, but getting rid of it might be tougher than it seems, especially in this style of league. We can discuss a fair and equitable way to refund owners Years and BLB's for HC's and / or DEF/ST positions, if the decision would be to scrap them. Since we came into 2007 with these positions in tact, and owners planned for their futures with them, there are some hurdles that need to be overcome before that decision could be made.
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Post by gametime on Jan 30, 2008 21:41:22 GMT -5
Yeah.... In fact it can be set up to have hidden windows that when rolled over a Babe A Day appears...... Gametime is there an option to put a youtube video on the homepage of MFL 24/7...kind of a "youtube"section of the homepage (even if it's at the bottom). Yeah.... If you want we can design a "Film Room" for you... Where the video can be embedded into the site design/layout... Check out the TBL site... for Rob I just made a tab where he could put all his vids.... they can be put anywhere on the site... With MFL the possibiilities are endless..
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Post by gametime on Jan 30, 2008 21:43:53 GMT -5
am i the only one that has a problem when a coach comes into a strategy for fantasy football.... I've never liked the HC position either, but getting rid of it might be tougher than it seems, especially in this style of league. We can discuss a fair and equitable way to refund owners Years and BLB's for HC's and / or DEF/ST positions, if the decision would be to scrap them. Since we came into 2007 with these positions in tact, and owners planned for their futures with them, there are some hurdles that need to be overcome before that decision could be made. It's the principle behind it.. It's not a coach... It's the good teams vs. the bad teams.... Swtich Belichick and Cam Cameron this year... who wins more games? and I understand your point and all... just saying the scoring swing that occurs here is rediculous...
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:54:44 GMT -5
If the league featured a higher scoring system than the coaches points would not be an issue, however, in this scoring feature the 15 point swing is WAY too much IMO
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:55:29 GMT -5
One thing I wanted to suggest, if we are ever going to make wholesale changes to the league NOW is the time to do it so lets get some more discussion on this board.
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Post by Johns Jackrabbits on Jan 31, 2008 22:38:04 GMT -5
that is to try and create parody All it does is encourage teams to suck big fat dicks at the end of the year instead of trying to win games. At the very least, the two worst teams should play a game like the 3rd / 4th place team do and the winner gets the 25 BLB's. You think I wanted to come in 2nd to last?!?!?!? I want to WIN! If any GM is throwing a game at the end of the season just to try to pick up some BLBs, then they should not be here. I like my team, but I knew it would not do the well this year, I plan to build through the draft and have a nice solid team in a couple of years...if I am near the bottom, then I need to re-think things again.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 22:40:09 GMT -5
this coming from the defending TBL champion!
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Post by Johns Jackrabbits on Jan 31, 2008 22:45:44 GMT -5
YOU KNOW IT!!! ;D
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Post by Orca on Feb 2, 2008 19:50:49 GMT -5
We need to remove the bonus points for number of completions by a QB. After a QB has completed 40 passes in a game he's already earned a ton of points. awarding additional "Bonus" points on top of the already ridiculous number of points he received for his completion yards is just salt in the wound.
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