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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 7, 2008 11:22:18 GMT -5
I think it is perfectly acceptable to award blb to anyone that attend this meeting
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:51:20 GMT -5
I will be on both the chatroom and the phone
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 4, 2008 11:07:47 GMT -5
I am all for adding IDPs and I believe we can do this in a manner that will make everyone happy. I think Buddah's plan is fair and doable but we just need to make sure we take everyone's feedback and concerns into account.
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 3, 2008 16:08:17 GMT -5
While I am all for adding IDPs to this league and I believe that it will make the league better I don't want to do something that causes this league to take ANY steps backwards and lose any of the great members in this league and it seems like there are some who feel very strongly that if we add IDPs we do it in 2009 or 2010. What I think is more than fair and will make everyone happy in the long run is adding them in 2009 if we vote on this.
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 2, 2008 20:06:00 GMT -5
we would need to expand the draft to at least 7 rounds if we ass IDP anyway
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 2, 2008 16:53:11 GMT -5
I think waiting until 2009 is the right thing to do
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 2, 2008 6:22:53 GMT -5
me too
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:14:04 GMT -5
I liked all of you points Barrister
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 11:05:11 GMT -5
IT would be minimal but there are GMs that have some defense locked in long term and I think we need to compensate them in some fashion. If we gave each GM 5 blbs for each year they have their defenses signed I think that would make this transition a little easier for many.
Like I said,I am not opposed to this change or any change I just do not want to rock this boat too much as we have already been through a great deal with the whole Shodan thing. I am really excited by the amount of activity and excitement for a league that does not even have a true home yet.
Something of this magnitude would need to be handled with extreme care so we make sure that everyone is cool with it.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 10:52:48 GMT -5
I am not opposed to doing this as early as next season if we vote on it, but we wold need to do something to compensate as far as giving extra blbs to teams and such to compensate for this as many gms planned for the current system we have in place.
Either way, it will take some planning and details to make sure we do the right thing
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 11, 2008 8:22:41 GMT -5
I am submitting a new proposal to Buddah later on today. Not that this first one is bad, I just know a few GMs have already been at it on the boards and I think it would be better for the league if we had them in the same division/conferences.
I also want to make sure we have the division/ conferences balanced to ensure that teams are playing on a level playing field.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 10:46:55 GMT -5
No changes are etched in stone Neil, this is something that I just wanted to start a discussion topic on. I strongly believe that setting the league up like this would increase the level of competition and make qualifying for the postseason really mean something instead of having a 6-6 team or a 5-7 team in the playoffs simply b/c they "won" their shit division. The only reason I even bring this topic up is that we are obviously going to do a little restructuring with the new GMs so IMO this would be a great time to do something of this magnitude, but it is by no means something that we MUST do or will do for that matter. It is just a suggestion that I truly believe will help make this elite league even more of a challenge. I hate seeing shit teams make the playoffs because theywon their division but if you guys want to keep it this way I have no problem with it as I plan on making the playoffs regardless of the format. As for the make up of the new divisions, I would like to try to keep some of the rivalries together. Obviously we gotta have Buddah and Guru in the same division and I know that Tyler and Fundy want to stay together along with Barrister and Ron so I will do my best to come up with something that everyone will agree on. This is something right off the top of my head should we decided to go with this new format: Conference 1 Loquitus Buddah GURU Wonderlichers Argonauts (Dammit) Condors Jackrabbits Nea Kameni Conference 2 Barrister Crew (RM) Ho's Blindside Game Time Fundy Secondary MGMG This would keep several GMs that have started some basic rivalries together and allow even more great rivalries to be born Like I said this is only a suggestion and not a mandate. But it is something to think about regardless. thoughts?
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 10:13:08 GMT -5
the 2 eight team conferences with only 6 teams making the postseason really takes the competition to an elite level of play IMO.
As for the double headers that is something we can vote on separately
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 28, 2008 20:21:40 GMT -5
Fundy it is great to hear from you!!!!
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 28, 2008 19:39:54 GMT -5
I have an idea that I wanted to throw out there for discussion about a potential realignment to the division and conference makeup along with an improved schedule where each GM will get the chance to play one another at least once every two seasons.
Here is my suggestion, all I ask is for an open mind:
1. Realign the league into 2 eight team divisions/conferences with the majority of games being played within the division between the 8 teams in each division with the lone inter-conference play being made up of four double header weeks built into the season that will rotate every other year. (weeks 2 and 3) and (weeks 11 and 12) these games would be scheduled during none NFL bye weeks to ensure that teams will be at full strength when they play their double header weeks. The season would also run 13 weeks for a total of 17 games
2. Reduce the number of playoff teams from 8 to 6 with the division winner in each conference receiving a bye into the Conference Championship Week so winning the division really means something as it provides a little but easier of a road to the Blitz Bowl. The other two wildcards in each conference would play each other. This would increase the level of competition and make each game in the regular season very meaningful. Another key benefit is that it will almost guarantee that the best teams will be playing in the postseason rewarding solid seasons instead of giving a berth to a 5-7 team simply because they were the division winner in a shit division. This is very important in a 16 team league and will definitely increase the level of competition in an already very competitive league.
3. Another great aspect of this set up is the feeling of true conference pride as the sides continually will argue about what conference is stronger. It makes meting up in the big game that much more special.
I also have a plan for franchise realignment that I will post later on
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 5, 2008 11:14:40 GMT -5
I meant that last post with the utmost respect to everyone voicing the concerns about IDPs and HCs. I just do not want these things ripping this league apart. I think that Shodan would be very happy to hear we lost a GM and I for one want this league to be something that is very special and sticks together for many, many years.
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 5, 2008 10:53:25 GMT -5
Guys,
I gotta say I agree with John on this one here. The enthusiasm and energy that we have is great, but the potential to frighten off good GMs is NOT worth it to me. Not sure if you guys know his or not but Neil has decided to step down as he is not in agreement with all of the changes that are being talked about (one of the thing I assured him of when I salvaged this league would be NO major changes this season and now we are talking about adding IDPs in 2008) I am all for adding IDPs but NOT at the expense of losing quality GMs as would would lose if Neil and Jerry leave over the IDPs.
Don't get me wrong, we cannot cater to every GMs needs, but I personally think with everything that this league has been through we need to PROCEED WITH CAUTION. This league is hanging by a thread as it is I for one will not sit around and let the issue of IDPs or HCs destroy what could be one hell of a league.
If making wholesale changes was the case, I would have just gone and done it when I set this league up as I personally feel that the 2 conference set up with only 6 teams making the postseason (which we use in TBL) provides FAR more competition than the current 4 division set up that could potentially have a 5-7 team make the playoffs.
We need to take a step back and thinkg about this entire situation, this is NOT a new league it is an extension of a league what was sabotaged by a piece of shit. The fact that we had 12 of 16 original GMs really meant something to me and I am very disappointed that Neil is stepping down. I do NOT see this as a good thing for this league and I personally feel that the level of competition just took a step back with his loss.
I know you guys are going to say things that if this is an elite league blah,blah,blah...but the most important thing about a league is the GMs and you don't get a much better GM than Neil Parker.
Like I said before, lets take this thing SLOW! Let's not make wholesale changes in ONE season. As for the blbs, I suggest we adopt the current system that is in place in TBL as far as awards go and such, part of this system is to help create parody and give the teams that had bad seasons a chance to make a splash in RFA.
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 2, 2008 19:57:20 GMT -5
If we decide to do anything of this magnitude. I assure you that we will make certain that everyone is happy.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 22:40:09 GMT -5
this coming from the defending TBL champion!
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:55:29 GMT -5
One thing I wanted to suggest, if we are ever going to make wholesale changes to the league NOW is the time to do it so lets get some more discussion on this board.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 31, 2008 6:54:44 GMT -5
If the league featured a higher scoring system than the coaches points would not be an issue, however, in this scoring feature the 15 point swing is WAY too much IMO
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 21:08:38 GMT -5
that is to try and create parody
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 5:56:48 GMT -5
that is something I planned to talk about Chris
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 28, 2008 10:45:03 GMT -5
A change of this magnitude if voted on by the GMs at the offseason meeting would need to be implemented in future seasons so GMs can plan accordingly.
If we do vote to add IDPs or make any major changes that changes the strategy of the league, it would not go into effect until 2009 at the very earliest to be fair.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 27, 2008 18:48:16 GMT -5
Excellent feedback Neil! This is exactly what I am looking for
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 26, 2008 19:46:41 GMT -5
Please post in this thread any league changes that we can vote on during the offseason meeting that will be held in Feb.
Please be as specific as possible and please try to remain open minded and positive. Remember we will vote on any changes to TBL 2 at the meeting.
thanks,
TBL 2 Commissioner
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 3, 2008 13:59:36 GMT -5
Your welcome, TBL 2 is going to be a great league, I guarantee that to all of you!
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Post by Rebels GM on Feb 3, 2008 13:51:38 GMT -5
GMs,
I am glad to announce that I am officially turning over the keys to Buddah and he will now be the full time commissioner of TBL 2 from this point forward. It was always the intention that when we got up and running Buddah would take over and we are not only up and running but moving in a very solid direction so it is just right that the league is governed by the commissioner.
Buddah has been working his tail off to get TBL 2 it's own domain and he has volunteered to take on the webmaster role for TBL 2 as well. I will stay on as a consultant to Buddah and I will facilitate the RFA session to help get him up to speed with the process. So without further adieu I welcome Buddah to the commissioner's office and look forward to his guidance of TBL 2.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 19:41:37 GMT -5
Major props go out to Buddah who pieced this together
I have all the final total points, except for 3 of the 4 TBL'ers, but here's what I was able to find from the RZB.net site, and from RTS week 12 scores: Using the final updated standings on the RZB.net site (which was updated thru week 11), I was able to put together the week 12 results for the TBL division as follows: Both Condors and Jackrabbits lost in week 12, so they both finished at 2-10. But, the Condors had 599 pts after week 11, and Jackrabbits had 733. There's no way the Condors outscored the Jackrabbits by 134 pts in week 12, so it's safe to say Condors wins that tie-breaker by having fewer total points. You & BVB both finished at 7-5 - BVB's week 11 points was 1029 and your week 11 pts were 898. Thanks to the "Playoff Picture" in the League News, it reported that your final total points were 989 - which means you scored 91 in your final win (vs either Condor's or Jackrabbits). As such, I was able to piece together the draft order. I believe this to be correct, but please feel free to look it over again. (1-8 were non-playoff teams, 9-16 was based on the playoffs). 1. Chris' Condors, 2-10, 699* (est) 2. Johns Jackrabbits, 2-10, 833* (est) 3. The Secondary, 4-8, 932 4. Football Buddah, 4-8, 986 5. Tribe, 4-8, 1063 6. Nea Kameni, 5-7, 910 7. Hand of God, 5-7, 911 8. Nappy Headed Ho's, 7-5, 989 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9. My Goodness, My Guinness, 6-6, 1103 10. Fundamentals, 7-5, 1143 11. Beaver Valley Blindside, 7-5, 1129* (est) 12. Lakeland Dreadnaughts, 9-3, 1212 13. Carmen's Crew, 8-4, 1403 14. The Collective Hive, 9-3, 1300 15. Da Victors, 10-2, 1436 16. Barrister Blitzkreig, 7-5, 1315
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 29, 2008 23:33:05 GMT -5
Guys,
Just to keep you all in the loop this is the email I sent out to Joe:
I am really sorry, but Budda (the person who will be the new commish of TBL 2) and I (the interim TBL 2 commissioner) both agreed that it would be highly unfair to remove the new GMs who have been very active and dedicated to moving this league forward at this point in time.
I hope you understand, I have nothing but the utmost respect for you as a GM and person.
thanks,
Rob Lee
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