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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 24, 2018 9:54:20 GMT -5
I didn't see a thread for this so I figured I'd start one as I had a suggestion for TBL2. When the league started as a TBL league we had two conferences made up of 16 teams. Football Buddha moved it to a four division format in 2012 and it's the system we use today.
I wanted to propose that we either revert back to a 2 conference system or keep the 4 division set up we have an tweak the playoff structure. Right now, we have games seeded based on conferences. My suggestion is to have the four division winners earn a playoff spot and then allow the WC teams to go to the teams with the four best records regardless of conference and then seed the playoffs based on records. This will reward teams that had a better season and increase competition and engagement IMO.
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Post by JoeStradamus on Jan 25, 2018 12:40:56 GMT -5
I understand your thoughts here, but in my opinion I like the way things are set up. I like the playoffs with 6 teams. I like the competition to get the WC spots, making trades, strengthening rosters to try to get in.
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 25, 2018 14:05:52 GMT -5
Oh, I'm in favor of a limited playoff participant pool as well. For some reason I thought we already had 8 teams qualify and if we had a 2 conference format with only 3 teams per conference qualifying I would be all for it.
My biggest beef is what happened this year to my team. I had the second best record, but had to play the team with the best record because we were in the same conference. If we have a 4 division format we should reseed in the playoffs to reward the teams with the better regular season record IMO.
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Post by JagerBombs on Jan 25, 2018 15:29:23 GMT -5
The only rule change I would recommend is to cut off score corrections for previous week games as of Thursday at Noon. I have been in TBL2 for what seems 10 years and this is the first season I have ever seen this happen and it happened two weeks in a row in the playoffs. Score corrections typically come on Wednesdays. Once a football game has been played on the next week and points have been scored, a score correction should no longer be applicable.
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Post by JoeStradamus on Jan 25, 2018 16:23:38 GMT -5
It also happened in TBL3 in their Championship game. The one team(Du Hast) was up by 4, stat correction had him down by 2, stat correction had them win the game by 14(now its different scoring) but its a hard place to be. In our league I.m not 100% sure when the stat correction went thru, I was working a lot that week, I set up Playoff week on Wednesday Night due to the limited time, when I went back to pay out sportsbook I had noticed the change. I can write to RTSports and let them know of the multiple issues that had happened in our leagues and see what they say. It is weird that it didn't affect any other games all year but 3 in 2 weeks, and they were in the playoffs and for money.
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Post by JagerBombs on Jan 25, 2018 17:33:26 GMT -5
I can tell you without doubt, 100% on Thursday night after the game had already been played the stat correction was not there because I was even talking to Elgin about how close the previous week was and we were looking at it. Are you saying you did not do anything to modify the playoff teams and that RTSports is what did it automatically when they ran the score update? If that is the case, then I feel a little better about it. Otherwise I have 2 issues.
1. I was knocked out - lol so of course it sucked
2. Had I been the other guy who all of a sudden was in the finals, I would not have had the chance to put in my best lineup because I would have thought I was eliminated.
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Post by Irongoalie AnarchisDuHast,AMob on Jan 25, 2018 21:57:27 GMT -5
- Reduce Passing TD's from 5 to 4 pts
- Increase Rushing and Receiving TD's from 5 to 6 pts
- Increase Passing Interceptions from -2 to -3 pts
I also like the current divisions setup and 6 teams in playoffs. Best W-L should always play worst W-L in every round.
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Post by JoeStradamus on Jan 26, 2018 23:42:29 GMT -5
I can tell you without doubt, 100% on Thursday night after the game had already been played the stat correction was not there because I was even talking to Elgin about how close the previous week was and we were looking at it. Are you saying you did not do anything to modify the playoff teams and that RTSports is what did it automatically when they ran the score update? If that is the case, then I feel a little better about it. Otherwise I have 2 issues. 1. I was knocked out - lol so of course it sucked 2. Had I been the other guy who all of a sudden was in the finals, I would not have had the chance to put in my best lineup because I would have thought I was eliminated. I did not do anything to change the teams. As I said I had a crazy week at work and was finally catching up on Saturday morning with the sportsbook. That’s when I noticed the change, I texted Rob cus we never seen it. But as said it happened in TBL3 as well in the finals. All roster changes are documented in the league, date and time. |
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Post by Rebels GM on Jan 27, 2018 13:58:19 GMT -5
Score changes suck, but they’re part of the game.
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Post by asspennies on Jan 28, 2018 16:56:17 GMT -5
As someone who fell victim to the wild card setup AND the scoring changes, I guess I'll weigh in. Scoring changes do suck, but, if you want to get technical about it, they're NOT part of the game. At least not that I could find on the TBL2.com rules page. If I missed it, I apologize. Even though I was only in the Shodan Bowl, the scoring changes screwed me too (I noticed the change Thursday afternoon around 3:00, FWIW), so I revisited the rules pages. I was unable to find any rules or bylaws that name the Elias Sports Bureau as the official authority on scoring, or RT Sports for that matter (I work under the assumption, as I think we all do, that this is the case, but I didn't find it actually addressed anywhere). In addition, there is no cutoff time/day that is considered the official end of the fantasy week when scores become final. So let's say that tomorrow the ESB made some stat corrections retroactive for week 16, then do we have to abide by that and maybe we suddenly have a different champion? Of course that's far-fetched and ridiculous, but if we're going to say that scoring changes are "part of the game," then that needs to be clearly spelled out in the rules somewhere, not just a vague assumption that we're all operating under. I'm not trying to be a dick (if I was, I would have said something when it happened in week 16), but there needs to be an official cutoff time when games become final. I would vote for Tuesday or Wednesday. Thursday is too late. 13.9. In the event of a controversy concerning interpretation of NFL events as they translate to TBL 2 fantasy points, the TBL 2 Commissioner will have final interpretation.
This is all I could find in the rules that addressed official scoring. Again, if I missed it, I'm sorry. As for the playoffs, if we're going to keep the number of teams at 8 (for the record i'm okay with 6 or 8 playoff teams), then I think the wild card teams should be the next 4 best records, or 4 highest remaining total points, or some combination of the two. This would help to reduce the effect of schedule bias, because we all know that there are always one or two teams that are "that team" that just gets lit up on a weekly basis, regardless of how good or bad their own team might be. No offense to anyone personally, but having two teams below .500 getting in over 2 teams above .500 simply because they happened to be in a less competitive conference or had an easier schedule doesn't seem fair. Sorry if this came off all bitchy and sour grapes. I love this format and I love this league. I'm just trying to help make it the best it can be.  |
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Post by Slapnutz on Feb 1, 2018 21:59:18 GMT -5
I would have no problem with the Wild Card teams being the 4 best records. Keeps a team from a weak division getting a cheap playoff spot. that's my vote.
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Post by asspennies on Mar 1, 2018 17:24:47 GMT -5
I know this is kind of late, but I wanted to throw out the idea of eliminating kickers. With 16 teams, there are only 32 kickers, and they seem to get hurt and cut all the time. I feel like every year I spend way too much time and BLBs just trying to field a kicker each week. I'm pretty sure I went through 4 or 5 just this season. If I'm the only one that has run into this problem, then never mind.
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Post by Nea Kameni on Mar 25, 2018 7:05:22 GMT -5
1. Let’s get rid of kickers
2. I like current playoff structure, but sounds like it is worth a vote.
3. Ass Pennies has a great point on scoring changes. I suggest voting on an end date for changes. I say Tues or We’d.
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Post by Wookie Strokers on Apr 18, 2018 21:40:35 GMT -5
I agree with WC going to best remaining records.
I do not agree with changing Passing INTs to -3. There are several times a QB hits a Receiver in the hands and he misses it and the ball gets picked. QB should not be penalized for that.
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Post by JoeStradamus on Apr 19, 2018 20:31:13 GMT -5
I agree with WC going to best remaining records. I do not agree with changing Passing INTs to -3. There are several times a QB hits a Receiver in the hands and he misses it and the ball gets picked. QB should not be penalized for that. We are not changing any scoring rules |
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Post by Rebels GM on Nov 11, 2018 17:01:40 GMT -5
Suggestion: In the future. If we have to keep the god awful double header weeks. I think it's only appropriate to schedule them on weeks where there are no byes. I know this requires some juggling year to year, but that is how we handled it back in the day when we had them in TBL. The thought was always if you have a week that is going to count double. Teams should be able to have their best team on the field.
Personally, I hate double headers and it was my fault they were even included in the league.
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